insbaby
03-04 02:33 PM
I have seen my friends refinancing, received mixed results.
Few say, can not approve loan because of temproary status (They have no answer for why they allowed last year when purchasing the home).
Same guys were able to get it done thru other banks.
EAD - is not popular as H1B in the financial area. They don't understand. You have to give this as a supporting document along with your H1B Visa and I-797.
Few say, can not approve loan because of temproary status (They have no answer for why they allowed last year when purchasing the home).
Same guys were able to get it done thru other banks.
EAD - is not popular as H1B in the financial area. They don't understand. You have to give this as a supporting document along with your H1B Visa and I-797.
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RNGC
06-24 09:44 AM
these were the kind of points I was looking for.....I will do this as my summer essay :) and share with IV when it is done.
America is definitely losing out because of prolonged Green card processing. I know of many well educated PostGraduates, Physicians who were not able to pursue their careers in Research, fellowships because they have to be stuck in one fixed position without any progress to obtain the green card. they are being denied of the opportunity to find new cures, innovations that could potentially help the humanity. true US is getting the taxes from the main H1 applicant, but what about the well educated spouses and dependants. don't they have a role in contributing to the development of the country, they are made to pay higher tuition fees and they cannot work on dependent status. Only the lucky few who were able to fille for I-485 in 2007 got their EADs, but what about the long waiting for 485 filing and EAD since 2000 and before? Even today you if you are EB3 or EB2, you cannot apply for 485 and so your family cannot get EAD and so cannot work.
Many software professional and other highly educated workers can contribute much more to the Economy like how they did in 1990s by becoming enterpreneurs, but they will not be able to do anything while on "temporary visas" as they are much more concerned about maintaining their status, extending their status every few years. many people are even hesitant to buy a house, agree a few of us have bought houses and other properties, but vast majority of us are still very hesitant to do it as we can never feel fully secure of our job. If you have the Greencard you will atleast be confident that you can find a job in the area where you buy the house.
If you look at the procedures for Drivers licenses, even though the legal workers go through rigorous security checks while obtaining visas and changing/extending status with USCIS and almost all of them are verywell educated and very responsible, you have to go through a big hassle to obtain the Drivers licences and some people are being made to wait for months even after providing all the required documentation. In some states, dependents are not given Drivers Licenses and in other states, you legal workers/students get a "special drivers license" with which there is much scope for being discriminated just on the basis of this license, and if you move to a different state, this special license is not recognized and you have to apply for a fresh license, take written test, driving test and go through all the hassles again even though you have been driving in US legally for more than 10 years.
these hard working young professionals are losing the most important phase of their lives waiting for the elusive greencard and by the time the get it they are much older and don't have the same zeal for new ideas like how they did before and end up taking care of other responsibilities including family. I can go on and on like this. after we have been through all these testing circumstances, please do not say that America has not lost anything, but the biggest losers of all are the legal immigrants.
this is a process where there are no winners, but only losers. this lengthy backlogged process is resulting in a great loss to the advancement of US and would be legal immigrants
America is definitely losing out because of prolonged Green card processing. I know of many well educated PostGraduates, Physicians who were not able to pursue their careers in Research, fellowships because they have to be stuck in one fixed position without any progress to obtain the green card. they are being denied of the opportunity to find new cures, innovations that could potentially help the humanity. true US is getting the taxes from the main H1 applicant, but what about the well educated spouses and dependants. don't they have a role in contributing to the development of the country, they are made to pay higher tuition fees and they cannot work on dependent status. Only the lucky few who were able to fille for I-485 in 2007 got their EADs, but what about the long waiting for 485 filing and EAD since 2000 and before? Even today you if you are EB3 or EB2, you cannot apply for 485 and so your family cannot get EAD and so cannot work.
Many software professional and other highly educated workers can contribute much more to the Economy like how they did in 1990s by becoming enterpreneurs, but they will not be able to do anything while on "temporary visas" as they are much more concerned about maintaining their status, extending their status every few years. many people are even hesitant to buy a house, agree a few of us have bought houses and other properties, but vast majority of us are still very hesitant to do it as we can never feel fully secure of our job. If you have the Greencard you will atleast be confident that you can find a job in the area where you buy the house.
If you look at the procedures for Drivers licenses, even though the legal workers go through rigorous security checks while obtaining visas and changing/extending status with USCIS and almost all of them are verywell educated and very responsible, you have to go through a big hassle to obtain the Drivers licences and some people are being made to wait for months even after providing all the required documentation. In some states, dependents are not given Drivers Licenses and in other states, you legal workers/students get a "special drivers license" with which there is much scope for being discriminated just on the basis of this license, and if you move to a different state, this special license is not recognized and you have to apply for a fresh license, take written test, driving test and go through all the hassles again even though you have been driving in US legally for more than 10 years.
these hard working young professionals are losing the most important phase of their lives waiting for the elusive greencard and by the time the get it they are much older and don't have the same zeal for new ideas like how they did before and end up taking care of other responsibilities including family. I can go on and on like this. after we have been through all these testing circumstances, please do not say that America has not lost anything, but the biggest losers of all are the legal immigrants.
this is a process where there are no winners, but only losers. this lengthy backlogged process is resulting in a great loss to the advancement of US and would be legal immigrants
mirage
08-04 04:53 PM
IV is you me and everybody else. We saw since morning how people are trying to scuttle the idea by giving various and weird reasonings. What is important is writing them. And telling them the gravity and urgency of the situations. words like bonded should be bolded as the truth is 'Yes' in this free American Society we have lived a 'bonded' life...
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Green.Tech
06-20 05:19 PM
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adhantari
07-06 03:52 PM
You morons, You have spent so much time in useless discussions and anti-immigrants are laughing at your foolishness. Its high time your greencards applications get a denial or RFE. You will come crying to IV to save your status. Or else you will be deported. That is all you can do. You guys have got sub labor or faked your resumes and now you want someone to be accountable to you. First learn to be accountable to yourself and your values.
Here is what antis are telling you aholes:
STFU you freeloaders
just frustered bcoz you are still stuck in Labor while mostly everybody filed their GC right...... I can understand...... but you should channel your frustration in good way.... may be try seeing a shrink...... I will pitch in $1 if you get shrink help......
Here is what antis are telling you aholes:
STFU you freeloaders
just frustered bcoz you are still stuck in Labor while mostly everybody filed their GC right...... I can understand...... but you should channel your frustration in good way.... may be try seeing a shrink...... I will pitch in $1 if you get shrink help......
sanju
03-12 08:31 PM
Oh I can find that information again-
Goto - http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=selectfields
- check box for client name
- click 'submit' button
- enter 'Immigration Voice' in the client name
- click 'submit' button
Now you see the amount spent by IV for lobbying in the Senate documents. Its around 1/2 million dollars.
Goto - http://soprweb.senate.gov/index.cfm?event=selectfields
- check box for client name
- click 'submit' button
- enter 'Immigration Voice' in the client name
- click 'submit' button
Now you see the amount spent by IV for lobbying in the Senate documents. Its around 1/2 million dollars.
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yabadaba
09-12 12:55 PM
Dear Reporter
On September 18th thousands of LEGAL TAX PAYING immigrants will unite to bring attention to the plight of waiting years in line with no end in sight.
No flags, no anger, no fodder for Lou Dobbs; this will be the most peaceful march that Washington has ever seen, inspired by the philosophy of Mahatma Gandhi.
This rally will not be country specific; People affected by this bureaucratic nightmare come in all shapes, colors and nationalities.
This is a time for all LEGAL immigrants to renew their tryst with destiny. The unworkable Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill that would have added decades to the wait time of LEGAL immigrants is now dead. Piecemeal approach bills are being introduced both in the house and the senate. We are standing and making our case - We are professionals, we are highly skilled and we deserve a fair immigration process.
Our case is not complicated, all that is required is tweaking of numbers so that the antiquated immigration policies can be adjusted to the realities and requirements of the 21st Century.
Thousands of people will march from the Washington Monument to the Capitol building on September 18 at 11 AM.
Any coverage of this event would be appreciated.
Thank you
Regards
Immigration Voice (www.immigrationvoice.org) is a non-profit national grassroots organization committed to feasible solutions to a broken employment-based immigration process. Immigration Voice is advocating for technical changes that will improve the quality of life of several individuals that are stuck in the backlogs/delays, and help the system to work as it was intended.
On September 18th thousands of LEGAL TAX PAYING immigrants will unite to bring attention to the plight of waiting years in line with no end in sight.
No flags, no anger, no fodder for Lou Dobbs; this will be the most peaceful march that Washington has ever seen, inspired by the philosophy of Mahatma Gandhi.
This rally will not be country specific; People affected by this bureaucratic nightmare come in all shapes, colors and nationalities.
This is a time for all LEGAL immigrants to renew their tryst with destiny. The unworkable Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill that would have added decades to the wait time of LEGAL immigrants is now dead. Piecemeal approach bills are being introduced both in the house and the senate. We are standing and making our case - We are professionals, we are highly skilled and we deserve a fair immigration process.
Our case is not complicated, all that is required is tweaking of numbers so that the antiquated immigration policies can be adjusted to the realities and requirements of the 21st Century.
Thousands of people will march from the Washington Monument to the Capitol building on September 18 at 11 AM.
Any coverage of this event would be appreciated.
Thank you
Regards
Immigration Voice (www.immigrationvoice.org) is a non-profit national grassroots organization committed to feasible solutions to a broken employment-based immigration process. Immigration Voice is advocating for technical changes that will improve the quality of life of several individuals that are stuck in the backlogs/delays, and help the system to work as it was intended.
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Asian
08-10 02:55 PM
O.K. I might have confused some.
There are certain child tax credit that you qualify with ITIN. But there is another kind of child tax credit which you cannot claim without the child's SSN. I cannot remember the exact name of the tax item but I do remember it was a big amount. Eventually, by the time we can get her SSN (hopefully if we are lucky enough) after GC, we won't qualify once again because of the income limit.
This is from the IRS website at:
As for:
I have filed returns for my child but my child was born here so we do have a SSN.
There are certain child tax credit that you qualify with ITIN. But there is another kind of child tax credit which you cannot claim without the child's SSN. I cannot remember the exact name of the tax item but I do remember it was a big amount. Eventually, by the time we can get her SSN (hopefully if we are lucky enough) after GC, we won't qualify once again because of the income limit.
This is from the IRS website at:
As for:
I have filed returns for my child but my child was born here so we do have a SSN.
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needhelp!
03-12 03:37 PM
No. Core member details are on IV About Us.
Agenda of lobbying remains same. It doesn't change weeky/monthly or even annually. Country quotas, increase in EB gc numbers, portability issues. It is also on IV website. Please look. No more details other than that will be made available, unless a bill is on the floor, thats when you see the results. Results are hard to come by. Core cannot reveal roadblocks or mini successes as these are all detrimental to the effort.
Are you part of core?
Can i take that core will not even give out information on what efforts it is lobbying currently?
I wonder how i will convince some of my friends to contribute to an effort which is not shared?:confused:
Agenda of lobbying remains same. It doesn't change weeky/monthly or even annually. Country quotas, increase in EB gc numbers, portability issues. It is also on IV website. Please look. No more details other than that will be made available, unless a bill is on the floor, thats when you see the results. Results are hard to come by. Core cannot reveal roadblocks or mini successes as these are all detrimental to the effort.
Are you part of core?
Can i take that core will not even give out information on what efforts it is lobbying currently?
I wonder how i will convince some of my friends to contribute to an effort which is not shared?:confused:
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chanduv23
12-01 11:49 AM
Another soft LUD on the 485 today - this is the 4th soft LUD since 11/24.
Another soft LUD on the 140, 765, 131 - second soft LUD since 11/24.
you may likely be getting an RFE or probably close to ur approval :)
Another soft LUD on the 140, 765, 131 - second soft LUD since 11/24.
you may likely be getting an RFE or probably close to ur approval :)
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sanjay
04-30 04:03 PM
They are done with the hearing?? WTF???? Have they got any fruitful information out of it? I feel so deceived..!! I think its all a farse..
Damn u USCIS and Damn u congress who hold our cause hostage to those illegal immigrants.
No fruitful results. As expected nothing happened. Actually, I would had got surprised if something had happened. plight of a legal immigrant from retrogated countries remains the same.
Back to work now.
Damn u USCIS and Damn u congress who hold our cause hostage to those illegal immigrants.
No fruitful results. As expected nothing happened. Actually, I would had got surprised if something had happened. plight of a legal immigrant from retrogated countries remains the same.
Back to work now.
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mpadapa
09-10 09:21 PM
HR 5882 has the answer for the FIFO problem.
USCIS is pretty good with approving cased based on PD for 3/4th of the year and in the last quarter they for the "Hail mary" play and DOS gives a wide PD range during the last quarter for USCIS to play. Apart from recapturing wasted visa's HR 5882 also has an automatic recapture provision to avoid any future visa wastage. If this provision is in place then UCSIS/DOS will not be in a position to playing the "some how use up visa by sep 31" card to approve random cases.
Rather than focusing on HR 5882 many are still pondering about LUD's and sill day dreaming. The demand for visa's is much higher than the supply of visa's, it doesn't matter what new spillover policy USCIS adopts, it can only provide incremental improvements. For a quantum improvment in the situation we need a legislation and HR 5882 is the best option we have now.
Can some gurus answer this...
Is there some wording in any laws/rules that says USCIS, no matter what, should not be approving cases out of PD order?
OR is PD just a *guidance* to maintain some sort of FIFO and there are enough loopholes in the law that allows USCIS to skirt around them and approve cases with later PDs by claiming that they are actually doing us a service by not wasting visa numbers by approving cases any which way they can?
If its the latter, then we can't do much other than appealing to their conscience and ask them to do a fairer job.
USCIS is pretty good with approving cased based on PD for 3/4th of the year and in the last quarter they for the "Hail mary" play and DOS gives a wide PD range during the last quarter for USCIS to play. Apart from recapturing wasted visa's HR 5882 also has an automatic recapture provision to avoid any future visa wastage. If this provision is in place then UCSIS/DOS will not be in a position to playing the "some how use up visa by sep 31" card to approve random cases.
Rather than focusing on HR 5882 many are still pondering about LUD's and sill day dreaming. The demand for visa's is much higher than the supply of visa's, it doesn't matter what new spillover policy USCIS adopts, it can only provide incremental improvements. For a quantum improvment in the situation we need a legislation and HR 5882 is the best option we have now.
Can some gurus answer this...
Is there some wording in any laws/rules that says USCIS, no matter what, should not be approving cases out of PD order?
OR is PD just a *guidance* to maintain some sort of FIFO and there are enough loopholes in the law that allows USCIS to skirt around them and approve cases with later PDs by claiming that they are actually doing us a service by not wasting visa numbers by approving cases any which way they can?
If its the latter, then we can't do much other than appealing to their conscience and ask them to do a fairer job.
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thomachan72
12-12 08:47 AM
Bank Of America denied my car loan. They want only US citizens or GC holders. I have EAD and apparently its not good at all for anything. I can't even get my drivers license. The DMV is waiting for a response from DHS, until then I have to find other means to go to work.
The other day at walmart, I paid my groceries, as usual with the credit card, so the walmart person wanted to see my ID. I showed her my EAD, she said she cannot accept that...she wants to see my Drivers License..I said it is expired and the only legal document with a photo ID is my EAD which is issued by the federal Gov...she was not convinces but said, "aahhh!!! thats okay, I trust you." and let me go...till the end she was not convinced in her mind.
You will get your GC in 2011.
Which state are you in? Try other means of financing for the car. Sometimes the dealers themselves have options but might be a % or two higher.
There was a previous post regarding admisibility of EAD as one of the documents for DL. You might want to search for that post. I asume you dont have an H1b, right?
The other day at walmart, I paid my groceries, as usual with the credit card, so the walmart person wanted to see my ID. I showed her my EAD, she said she cannot accept that...she wants to see my Drivers License..I said it is expired and the only legal document with a photo ID is my EAD which is issued by the federal Gov...she was not convinces but said, "aahhh!!! thats okay, I trust you." and let me go...till the end she was not convinced in her mind.
You will get your GC in 2011.
Which state are you in? Try other means of financing for the car. Sometimes the dealers themselves have options but might be a % or two higher.
There was a previous post regarding admisibility of EAD as one of the documents for DL. You might want to search for that post. I asume you dont have an H1b, right?
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vparam
09-17 08:57 PM
vparam, thanks a lot for sharing the info.
can you please suggest accountant, if its ok with you, residing any place is fine as we deal most of it through ph, having tough time to find the right one just to aid in the start up and maintain min. proceedings like tax filing etc. without having any activity/revenue
I have used the following accountant for years now, The best part is that he is familiar with Immigration issues or gets it validated from an immigration attorney, who sits in the same building.
Please note I am not soliciting for him but reffering him based on request.
George Demergis
Colitsas Thomas & Associates PA
103 Carnegie Centre Suite 309, Princeton, NJ 08540
Phone - 609 452 0889
gdemergis@TCACPA.com
can you please suggest accountant, if its ok with you, residing any place is fine as we deal most of it through ph, having tough time to find the right one just to aid in the start up and maintain min. proceedings like tax filing etc. without having any activity/revenue
I have used the following accountant for years now, The best part is that he is familiar with Immigration issues or gets it validated from an immigration attorney, who sits in the same building.
Please note I am not soliciting for him but reffering him based on request.
George Demergis
Colitsas Thomas & Associates PA
103 Carnegie Centre Suite 309, Princeton, NJ 08540
Phone - 609 452 0889
gdemergis@TCACPA.com
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vin13
02-19 11:55 AM
I don't understand why EB3-I is a lost cause. Isn't the percentage distribution for the various categories taken into account? I don;t think I understand how the percentage distrubution works probably. Can anyone please explain?
India and China get most of their share through not only the allocated %age but also through the spillover from ROW. Since there is less spillover from ROW for EB-3, the amount of visa for EB-3I is less.
India and China get most of their share through not only the allocated %age but also through the spillover from ROW. Since there is less spillover from ROW for EB-3, the amount of visa for EB-3I is less.
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himu73
09-09 01:18 PM
You need to have proper knowledge of the market to invest anywhere. Most of the things you have stated make it clear that you have never been a real estate investor.
I think you missed a chance by not investing in India through 2001 to 2005.Money has doubled tripled and there are buyers who can afford to buy in Tier 1 cities. Those are not the EMPLOYED people but the SELF-EMPLOYED ones.
Study the market carefully and make sound decisions whether India or anywhere but dont make comments based on some analysis.
Also,Investing is an ongoing exercise, whether Real estate,Stocks. you cannot just wake up one day and say I want to invest in Indian real estate. You need to build a portfolio similar to the way you do for Stocks. Start with a some research and a small investment. My suggestion is to join a group of people who are already doing some Real estate investment and go along with them. Just reading someone else's comments and coming to a conclusion is not good. Do more research ,Invest time, Wait for the right opportunity.
Just my few cents.
Just additionally, It is not a good idea to invest in a House in India right now just as a pure Investment. You are right on that part.
I think you missed a chance by not investing in India through 2001 to 2005.Money has doubled tripled and there are buyers who can afford to buy in Tier 1 cities. Those are not the EMPLOYED people but the SELF-EMPLOYED ones.
Study the market carefully and make sound decisions whether India or anywhere but dont make comments based on some analysis.
Also,Investing is an ongoing exercise, whether Real estate,Stocks. you cannot just wake up one day and say I want to invest in Indian real estate. You need to build a portfolio similar to the way you do for Stocks. Start with a some research and a small investment. My suggestion is to join a group of people who are already doing some Real estate investment and go along with them. Just reading someone else's comments and coming to a conclusion is not good. Do more research ,Invest time, Wait for the right opportunity.
Just my few cents.
Just additionally, It is not a good idea to invest in a House in India right now just as a pure Investment. You are right on that part.
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psaxena
01-10 06:09 PM
There are ton of companies that you can go thru. My case was worse than yours, I am on EAD with expired visa. I already had a house on which I was trying to get the loan modification and when going through that process my credit was screwed up. There was no way I could have got the loan from BOFA or chase or any other big names. I went thru a very small loan servicing company who service the loan and make a portfolio of loans and sell to big banks. Even with that small company it was almost impossible but my loan officer got it thru and finally we moved into a new house then.
So bottom line , kick the lame a** loan officer and look for someone else.
Thanks sy. I fully agree it's the agent we deal with. My BOA loan coordinator is extremely stubborn & doesn't have any clue regarding immigration. From day 1 she is stuck on unexpired I-94 & till today she asks me to furnish that. Is it possible that I can contact you or any of your friends through email / phone & discuss to check where I am going wrong. I can furnish my contact details if needed.
So bottom line , kick the lame a** loan officer and look for someone else.
Thanks sy. I fully agree it's the agent we deal with. My BOA loan coordinator is extremely stubborn & doesn't have any clue regarding immigration. From day 1 she is stuck on unexpired I-94 & till today she asks me to furnish that. Is it possible that I can contact you or any of your friends through email / phone & discuss to check where I am going wrong. I can furnish my contact details if needed.
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reedandbamboo
09-11 10:07 PM
Every visa bulletin there is some information of the coming months processing that needs to be interpreted. The Oct 08 bulletin talks about the following:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4357.html
E. EMPLOYMENT VISA AVAILABILITY
Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined. It is estimated that the FY-2009 Employment-based annual limit will be very close to the 140,000 minimum.
Correct me if I'm wrong, BUT it was not until 2005 that the backlogs started to appear (owing to introduction of PERM?). What the hell have they been doing from 2005 until now?!!! WHY don't they still have a friggin' clue as to the number of cases in their system?
DAMN SLACKERS I SAY!!
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4357.html
E. EMPLOYMENT VISA AVAILABILITY
Item E of the May 2008 Visa Bulletin (number 118, volume VIII) indicated that many Employment cut-off dates had been advancing very rapidly, based on indications that the Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) would need to review a significantly larger pool of applicants than there were numbers available in order to maximize number use under the FY-2008 annual limits. That item also indicated that if the CIS projections proved to be incorrect, it would be necessary to adjust the cut-off dates during the final quarter of FY-2008. The CIS estimates have proven to be very high resulting in: 1) the �unavailability� of all Employment Third preference categories beginning in July, 2) the �unavailability� of numbers for China and India Employment Second preference adjustment of status cases during September, and 3) the establishment of many October Employment cut-off dates which are earlier than those which applied during FY-2008.
Little if any forward movement of the cut-off dates in most Employment categories is likely until the extent of the CIS backlog of old priority dates can be determined. It is estimated that the FY-2009 Employment-based annual limit will be very close to the 140,000 minimum.
Correct me if I'm wrong, BUT it was not until 2005 that the backlogs started to appear (owing to introduction of PERM?). What the hell have they been doing from 2005 until now?!!! WHY don't they still have a friggin' clue as to the number of cases in their system?
DAMN SLACKERS I SAY!!
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Suva
04-10 03:01 PM
Hi pappu, I am contributing $5/month from 2007. This is $60 for every year. Am I eligible for donar forum? I am sending the checks from 2007 till now by bill pay from my bank.
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05-30 09:56 PM
hmmm..
raysaikat
01-07 12:24 AM
raysaikat, and others, can we call a truce and focus on the original intent of the thread? I am sure we can all agree that the top 5 % of the worst university (does not matter which, or where) are usually better than the bottom 5 % of the best university (again, does not matter).
In my life, in our company, I've seen some of the sharpest brains around (PhDs working for the Russian defence before they defected in late 70's and early 80's) and some of the dumbest (a mechanical engineer who refused to believe me when I mentioned the sun was approximately 300000 bigger than the earth in terms of mass and 1000000 times bigger in terms of volume). Believe it or not, I've met a taxi driver who graduated from an Ivy League institution and used to work at NASA in 60s and 70s and worked on developing algorithms for decompressing transmissions. There are all sorts who make the world a pretty interesting, if unpredictable place. :)
You never know whom you are sitting next to on the plane! ;)
Rather than arguing over silly matters, perhaps we should focus on intelligent analysis and if necessary, rebuttal of arguments.
We do not prove anything by arguing over IIT vs Osmania, or North Vs South, but merely conform the worst aspects of Prof. Wadhwa's sweeping generalizations.
I, for one, have serious questions:
A) The video was edited. It is a collection of sound bites. How do we know the context of the statements if we do not have the full transcript?
B) We have no visuals of the charts and figures referred to by Prof Wadhwa.
C) We have no access to the raw data used by Prof. Wadhwa. He may had published it, but I have not seen any of it. (Unless Macaca can ferret out the details.. if anyone can, he is the man!). I have, for instance, basic questions whether immigrants and foreign students were excluded when he (Wadhwa) was counting the openings filled and engineers graduated in US.
I do not mean to offend anyone, nor am I commenting on any country, university, or anything.. so please do not misunderstand me. Let us focus on the what is more important.
I agree with you. It is important to know if the US data excluded international students or not. You can find the papers here:
http://www.soc.duke.edu/GlobalEngineering/papers.html
The relevant one seems to be the following:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
In my life, in our company, I've seen some of the sharpest brains around (PhDs working for the Russian defence before they defected in late 70's and early 80's) and some of the dumbest (a mechanical engineer who refused to believe me when I mentioned the sun was approximately 300000 bigger than the earth in terms of mass and 1000000 times bigger in terms of volume). Believe it or not, I've met a taxi driver who graduated from an Ivy League institution and used to work at NASA in 60s and 70s and worked on developing algorithms for decompressing transmissions. There are all sorts who make the world a pretty interesting, if unpredictable place. :)
You never know whom you are sitting next to on the plane! ;)
Rather than arguing over silly matters, perhaps we should focus on intelligent analysis and if necessary, rebuttal of arguments.
We do not prove anything by arguing over IIT vs Osmania, or North Vs South, but merely conform the worst aspects of Prof. Wadhwa's sweeping generalizations.
I, for one, have serious questions:
A) The video was edited. It is a collection of sound bites. How do we know the context of the statements if we do not have the full transcript?
B) We have no visuals of the charts and figures referred to by Prof Wadhwa.
C) We have no access to the raw data used by Prof. Wadhwa. He may had published it, but I have not seen any of it. (Unless Macaca can ferret out the details.. if anyone can, he is the man!). I have, for instance, basic questions whether immigrants and foreign students were excluded when he (Wadhwa) was counting the openings filled and engineers graduated in US.
I do not mean to offend anyone, nor am I commenting on any country, university, or anything.. so please do not misunderstand me. Let us focus on the what is more important.
I agree with you. It is important to know if the US data excluded international students or not. You can find the papers here:
http://www.soc.duke.edu/GlobalEngineering/papers.html
The relevant one seems to be the following:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
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